Hey just would like to know what everyone thinks about Spielberg. Personally I think he is one of the best directors out there, the most consistent, the most passionate. I recently did a senior thesis one him, so just wanted to know everyone's viewpoint. Thanks!

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I think he's overrated. He makes some great stuff, but there are other directors out there that I have more respect and appreciation for.

hes good... but theres better. .... Sofia... even though she has like 2 movies? they're 2 really good one....

THen again... i might just be a bit "Lost in Translation"-obsessed at the current moment.

But seriosuly I get your point, but still, he's only done a few movies.

Spielberg:
He definetely has some good stuff, but he also has what I think is crap....A.I. was totally lame that I couldn't even watch it. I wonder what it wouldve been like if Kubrick had done it? Then Catch Me if You Can...what the hell is this movie? BOOOOOOOOOORING.

But Saving PRivate Ryan is excellent. Look at how influencial it is, actually...it's TOO influencial. Now every war film out has to have shaky cameras....I mean COME ON!

Jaws was also good (I mean, look how young he was and he pulled off such a great movie! Thats rare! And it did WELL, even RARIER!)

ET I always liked, but I guess, yeah.....um....it's a good Kids Movie.

Shindler's List was also really really good.

I think Speilberg sets a lot of cliches in...as in he did 'em first and now everymovie tries to copy; POV of Killer (Jaws) Shakey Cameras (Saving Private Ryan) The whole black and white thing used for some reason (Shindler's List)

Ok, I don't know what I'm talking about anymore.

but Kill Bill is gonna kick ass.

Oh man, I forgot Jurassic Park, thats the first movie to get me interested in film, I didn't know I wanted to be a film maker until Pulp Fiction though.

-TacoWagonSuperFun!

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Overrated my butt. People don't even know the definition of overrated. Spielberg rocks.

I think Spielberg is great and I like most of his movies. Many of them influenced me to get involved in this field. Also have you guys ever seen the film "Duel" that he did? I remember watching it and seeing a news story the next day that dealt with the same case (road rage with 18 wheeler). Check it out if you haven't seen it =)

Man, not this again, Spielberg is so overrated. But, that doesn't really matter because people here are going to be split 50-50. Personally, I hate the guy. Sure, I enjoy a couple of his movies, but I still hate the guy. I don't care about his Schindler's Lists or his Saving Private Ryans, or even the ones I do care about like A.I. (except for the last twenty minutes, which is the perfect example of why he's such a wank), Indiana Jones, or Jurassic Park (Lost World sucked major ass and also showed where he can do horrible horrible wrong.) All Spielberg has going for him is freedom, which is what I'm sure we all want, absolute freedom to do anything. I know that I have enough talent that if I were given the budgets and freedom to do whatever the hell I wanted, my movies would kick his ass. And that's true for a lot of people. There are thousands more talented than that "movie god," just not a thousand as lucky as him. Honestly, if I ever do make it big and do get the freedom he has, I can amaze, but, I'm still just a kid without money or a crew. Spielberg blows. It's time to give someone with real talent the freedom to do whatever he wants, then we'll have something fresh and enjoyable.

-Elliott

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and as far as consistent goes, i would say kubrick, malick and tarantino are better. Lynch and cronenberg too.

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I strongly agree with Kubrick and Tarantino. I would also add Fincher to the list.

speilberg is going to go down as the overall most respected and influential filmmaker of all time. it wont be till after he passes away, but itll happen. when the man is at his best, there is not a single filmmaker out there that can rival what he does. lynch? cronenberg? c'mon. lets not throw hit and miss arthouse names around in the same ballpark as spielberg.

This is going to be an annoying thread I can see it already. Let's just wait till kris and skoat jump in.

"You may have seen more movies than me, but I've MADE more than you."

I definetely don't look up to the guy as being my inspiration, but I respect him for being able to do whatever the hell he wants.....even if doing whatever he wants means making Catch Me if You Can........oh man what a bad movie.

The thing is he doesn't really have a certain STYLE ya know? Each one of his films is totally different than his others....its like he can't find a style to stick with, whereas David Lynch, Tarantino and Rodriguez (God forgive him for Spy Kids 2 & 3) all have a certain recognizable "Style" that u can notice in ALL their films. Whether it be a certain camera angle that is their trademark, a piece of dialogue, an article of clothing, or even having a picture of an Elephant in all his films! I can't really point out anything that shows his own little trademarks........

wait, I was talking about style.....damnit.

-TacoWagonSuperFun!

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maybe kubrick and malick were smart in the sense of "quality over quantity.

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Tarantino is doing this too...he spends so much time on his scripts. He already said that this World War II film he's writing turned into 3 World War II films. Can u imagine? Oh man. I think he'll be like the next Kubrick, give him a few years and he'll blow us away with something so original.....I don't know....but it'll be good...better than Pulp Fiction good....and thats saying A LOT!

-TacoWagonSuperFun!

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Think of it this way....Pulp Fiction was his 2001, now were waiting for A Clock Work Orange.........I don't even know whats gonna happen when Full Metal Jacket comes.

-TacoWagonSuperFun!

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I used to think of Spielberg as the master of light. Beautiful.
But then I saw Peter Jackson, and I think I am changing my mind.

"What are you doing?"
"Oh . . .uh . . .nothin"

So I've been the most eager to say I hate Spielberg, but seriously, A.I. is an example of him doing right, sorta. Okay, imagine in a perfect world where Spielberg isn't an idiot and never tacked on those last twenty minutes on to it. The rest of the movie was great. I'm not saying those two acts are better than what Kubrick would've done, but they're still good. This film is a prime example of why Spielberg's bad; as far as trademarks, styles go, you can honestly say that that the horrible last act was very Spielberg. He even faded to black, but could he let it end in the dismal yet sweet ending it had? Noooooo. He had to Spielberg it up with that alien crap. So yeah, obviously I think the movie's good with the exception of that last bit. Why does everyone else hate it so much?

-Elliott

Cause I'm just being an ass hole and that I've never seen it, and everyone else hates it, so me being the tool I am, must hate it also, otherwise my peers won't except me into their society and we can't have picnics.

-TacoWagonSuperFun!

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You talk to a filmmaker for about 3 minutes and you'll know if he respects Steve-O or not. I haven't seen "ALways" but I've seen every other movie mentioned here and I have not been disappointed with any of them. I really dig his work. I like QT but I think Kill Bill is already overrated - it's going to be an epic freakin' kung fu movie - blah blah blah!

As a Producer:

Catch Me If you Can (2002)
Taken (2002)
MIB2 (2002)
AI (2001)
Shrek (2001)
Saving Ryan's Privates (1998)
Deep Impact (1998)
Pinky and the Brain
ER
The Flintstones
Schindler's List
Gremlins
Poltergeist
ET... and like 70+ more

As a Director:

Catch Me if You Can

Amistad (1997)
Lost World: Jurassic Park, The (1997)
Steven Spielberg's Director's Chair (1996) (VG)
Schindler's List (1993)
Jurassic Park (1993)
... aka JP (1993) (USA: promotional abbreviation)
Amazing Stories: Book One (1992) (V) (segment "The Mission")
Hook (1991)
Always (1989)
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989)
Empire of the Sun (1987)
Color Purple, The (1985)
"Amazing Stories" (1985) TV Series (episode "Ghost Train (1985)") (episode "Mission, The (1985)")
... aka "Steven Spielberg's Amazing Stories" (1985) (USA: complete title)
"Strokes of Genius" (1984) (mini) TV Series (introductory segments)
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984)
Twilight Zone: The Movie (1983) (segment 2)
Poltergeist (1982) (uncredited)
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
... aka E.T. (1982) (USA: short title)
... aka E.T. the Extra- Terrestrial: The 20th Anniversary (2002) (USA: longer version)
Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)
... aka Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) (USA: video title)
1941 (1979)
Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977)
... aka CE3K (1977) (USA: informal short title)
Jaws (1975)
Sugarland Express, The (1974)
Savage (1973/I) (TV)
... aka Savage File, The (1973) (TV) (USA)
... aka Watch Dog (1973) (TV)
Something Evil (1972) (TV)
Duel (1971/I) (TV)
"Owen Marshall: Counselor at Law" (1971) TV Series (episode "Eulogy for a Wide Receiver (1971)")
Columbo: Murder by the Book (1971) (TV)
"Psychiatrist, The" (1971) TV Series (episode "Par for the Course (1971)") (episode "Private World of Martin Dalton, The (1971)")
Name of the Game: LA 2017, The (1971) (TV)
"Night Gallery" (1970) TV Series (episode "Eyes") (episode "Make Me Laugh")
... aka "Rod Serling's Night Gallery" (1970) (USA)
Night Gallery (1969) (TV) (segment "Eyes")
"Marcus Welby, M.D." (1969) TV Series (episode "Daredevil Gesture, The (1970)")
... aka "Robert Young, Family Doctor" (1969)
Amblin' (1968)
"Name of the Game, The" (1968) TV Series (episode "L.A. 2017")
Slipstream (1967) (unfinished)
Firelight (1964)
Battle Squad (1961)
Escape to Nowhere (1961)
Last Gun, The (1959)



Here check for yourselves…

Stanley Kubrick http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000040/
Steven Spielberg http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000229/
Q.T http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000233/
David Lynch http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000186/
Peter Jackson http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001392/

Hey you know how to find ‘em. http://www.imdb.com
Steven Spielberg is one of my heroes. I hope to accomplish a fifth of what he has as of today… not to mention the next 10-15 years…

- C. Davis
YELLOW HAMMER PRODUCTIONS

Oh no not this convo again....

Like him or not you know he's one of the greatest...and even if yo don't think that....everyone else does.

Books will always be written and Spielberg's name will always be brought up...never over rated. And don't forget E.T

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It's a bandwagon. People jump onto it. Somebody says "Kubrick is god", 100 people jump on. In all fairness, Spielberg never had a flat out bad film. And it makes me sick to hear this drivel. When someone doesn't like a Spielberg movie, you know what they're comparing it against? ANOTHER Spielberg movie, subconsciously. Your thinking "damn, that wasn't as good as some of the best work he's done." Unfortunately, the man is so good, that he's created a negative curve against himself. He constantly has to live up some of his best films, which, incidentally, are milestones. The man is a filmmaking god. He can, and has, done everything. He's made some of the best pieces of cinema EVER to grace alot of your ungreatful eyes. ET...Close Encounters, Saving Private Ryan, Indiana Jones, friggin JAWS, Schindler's List. Hello? Have IQ's just dropped sharply? I've just named, without any doubt, 6 of the best films ever made. And that's just offhand. Empire of the Sun? The Color Purple? JURASSIC PARK?!?!?! C'mon. You people are cracking me up. Aside from Cameron, who's recently turned into a wuss, and doesn't yet have the range or repertoire that Spielberg has...who else touches the man? Even comes close? Not a single director anybody can mention has had as many incredible films as Spielberg. Sure, there are other great films, by other talented directors...but there's not a single director who's contributed as much and as diverse as Spielberg. I'm sick and tired of this indie fad. I love indie films, don't get me wrong. But folks...wise up. Your Tarrantino's...your Lynch's and Kubricks...they've had their moments. But that's it. Moments. Kubrick had 2001, Clockwark Orange, and FMJ. Great films. But hardly the type of films that go down as entertainment. They're art. You watch em once, twice in your lifetime, and appreciate them. But they're not what MOVIES are about. It's escapism. It's visual daydreaming. Spielberg is almost single handedly responsible for cinema as we know it today. And please, no wisecracks about "yea, thanks for modern cinema...it sucks." Because if I got started on the zillions of indie films that are trashy ripoffs of Pulp Fiction and Clerks, we'd be done here really quick. And anybody who likes Lynch can eat me. The guy's nuts, plain and simple. He makes purposely incoherent mounds of crap, calls them art, and 100,000 psuedo-intellectuals call it genious. Why? Because they don't know any better. They're afraid someone they know might like it, and think them stupid if they didn't "understand" it. Wake up. If you think it's crap, don't be afraid to say so, just because you might offend one of your friends who pretends he has an IQ higher than Forrest Gump. Hey, now that we're on the subject, anybody want to try and badmouth Zemeckis? It'll be pretty tough, but I'm sure some student filmmaker with delusions of grandeur will step up to the task...

Sparks

Zemeckis is pretty damn cool, if I had a choice of an eternity of watching Zemeckis's flicks over watching Spielberg's, I'd choose Zemeckis. Contact was an amazing ****ing movie that kicks the ass of any E.T., Close Encounters bull****. And the Back to the Future franchise? Okay, so Marty McFly and quite the badass as Indiana Jones, but man, a time-traveling Deloreon? Robert kicks Spielberg's ass. Alright, here's a director for you, David Fincher, brilliant visionary, works with what he's given. Se7en and Fight Club were great scripts and he was able to produce to wonderful movies. No matter how brutal you think Fight Club, it will always be great for style and entertainment. I'll also use Aaronofsky now because he seems to be a four-letter word. Pi was his Jaws, just smarter. An intense, low-budget, sci-fi thriller. Requim was his Schindler's List, for lack of a deeper comparison. And made those two without massive budgets and special effects. Imagine what this man, and Fincher, could do with half the freedom or money Spielberg has for his movies. Movies would be in a better state of affairs. I don't care about Spielberg anymore, love or hate, I just want him to retire so I never have to say "that piece of **** ending is so Spielberg."

-Elliott