Hi

I need advice , can I buy a film quality camera for $12,000 ? if yes what would it be 16mm or 35m?
Arriflex or panavision ?

Also are there any decent websites that sell these items ?

and finally is there any sites that show the quality of the picture produce from the camera or does the quality of the picture depend on what kind of Film you use ?

Please help, oh yeah...Merry Christmas and happy new year .

Dev

mhh well you can get a 16mm camera for 300 bucks on ebay

Krasnagorsk 3 or a bolex (eventually a little bit more expensive.

the quality depends on the lense you use. lenses are the most expensive parts. If you want to buy a better camera (sync sound), I would check out a CP16, I believe you could get one of those really cheap. High end 16mm cameras costs you around 50k, 35mm go up to 250000dollar as far as I know.

The picture quality depends not only on the lens you use but heavily on the cinematography

I would recommend not to buy one (or get a cheap bolex to experiment around) and rather invest the money in renting the equipment.

For $12,000 you can get a pretty decent 16mm or Super16 camera. Or, you could get a not so good 35mm camera.

K-3's, Bolex's, Arri S's, Arri Bl-16's, Eclair NPR's, Mitchel CP-16's can all be found under 5k probablly. Arri SR(1) and Eclair ACLs can most likely be found for under 10k or maybe an Aaton LTR.

On the 35mm end you can probablly find a Konvas, an Eyemo or an Arri IIB, IIC or a BL(1)-35 under that number.

Panavisions cannot be bought, only rented.

The question is, as always, do you really need to own one of these cameras? Also, what do you need the camera to do specifically? Some are good for sound work, some are good for variable speed. It's rare that a camera is really good for both (At least in this price range). You also need to consider your lense situation. Not only what lense(s) come, or don't come, with the camera, but also what mount the camera has for future addition. Also, some cameras are more easily modifed than others (Ie. for Super16).

The best rule of thumb for ownership is to only keep cameras that pay for themselves. This doesn't always apply to the pro-sumer realm, but once we're talking $5k+ it becomes more of an issue.

Hope that helps somewhat.

Nota "Only owns a crappy low-end MiniDV for demo-reel editing" Mono

just get the 35mm panavision

listen to nota, he knows what he is talking about (I don't)

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Originally posted by NotaMono:
Panavisions cannot be bought, only rented.

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Not to mention they can cost up to half a million.

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NotaMono said: "Panavisions cannot be bought, only rented."

Hehe... you can buy almost anything... with a lot of money, ofcourse