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if you were to make an idenpendant film and put it on dvd would you chose to shoot on normal mode or frame mode?

does frame mode really succeed in giving it a film motion?
 
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Have it on normal mode. Never use the moviemode* , thats if u want to transfer to film , i suggest checking out the Panasonic AG DVX 100, its intended for film transfer purposes, it has frame rate of 24 fps.
 
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Well yes MOVIE MODE if intended for DVD.
 
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Frame mode reduces the amount of blur between frames... it just depends on the feel you want Smile

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im going for a film like motion.

is movie mode the same thing as deinterlacing?
 
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I don't know what that means. Frame mode is a digital attempt at what film does. Picture by picture in stead of straight recording. I'll look up a link to better explain this.

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I haven't read this... but it may explain what you're looking for.

http://jehoo.netian.com/tech%20brief/brief%203/dvcontents/dv-9.html

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movie mode will give you pretty much the same look as deinterlacing. it will be slighty softer and the motion will be more film like. movie mode with a NTSC XL1 is not intended for a film transfer. a film transfer is probably out of the question, but you would shoot normal mode if you intended to transfer with an XL1. go ahead and shoot movie mode.

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AFC that link you gave him is a little misleading in some places. When you change the shutter speed on a camera, you're not changing the fps. Therefore, setting the shutter speed to 30 isn't going to give you 30 fps; 60 doesn't make the framerate jump either, etc. Everything else he said was true though, I just don't want people shooting choppy videos because they think their framerate mimics film's more. Smile

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Erik, if you want to replicate a filmlike motion the best, I'd sugest shooting normal mode, then useing a postproduction method of giving it film like motion. This ensures you the most options in the editing room. You can go from a simple deinterlace to a more complex motion filter such as magic bullet or cinelook. Or, if you change your mind, you can leave the footage fully interlaced. It's all about having as many options as possible in post.

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I know some guys who shot a comedic horror feature called "MOnsturd" with a GL-2 using "Movie Mode" (you can find it for rent at Blockbuster) It helped them sell it to distributors because it looked more like film then regular video, but it dosent quite look like film either. If your going for th easiest and most accessible "film look" you can, use that mode.
R. Michael

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Well, it all depends on what you're going to do with the film once you've finished it.

If you're blowing up from DV to 35mm then AVOID FRAME mode! (Yes, I know it sounds stupid what with the progressive frame advantages). Apparently, it makes for worse transfers. Don't just take my word for it though: http://www.dvfilm.com/

If you're going the entirely digital route, then USE FRAME mode! It looks a lot better than the standard movie mode.

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