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Definitely the best movie all summer. They just don't make action flicks like this anymore, go check it out now! Shakespeare says "Prose before hoes." | ||
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I'm waiting till tuesday when I can see it for free! The place I work at set up a free movie night, for the employees, at the local cinema. I can't wait it looks pretty good, and what I've heard from people it's pretty good. | |||
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| Freshman |
I really enjoyed the movie however I thought the ending was poorly done. Yes I did like the return of Barbosa but I didn't like the fact that the movie couldn't stand on its own as a film. The ending implies a sequel, which for the most part is alright, however, it fails to give closer to the movie itself. I attempted to be as nondescript as possible for all those who are reading this but haven't yet seen the movie. I also would like to note that I did greatly enjoy this movie and it is the movie of the summer thus far. "Pain is termorary. Film is forever" - Michael J. Fox | |||
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| Graduate |
Personally I loved the ending being the way it was, ( you might want to put some spoiler tags on your post by the way, Angus) seeing as how it's the second installment of a trilogy. Comparable to the Empire Strikes Back in my books! Shakespeare says "Prose before hoes." | |||
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Bruce, you're spot on - it's Empire Strikes Back in its cliffhanger ending. Of COURSE it implies a sequel, they planned 2 and 3 together. I would go as far to say that Pirates of the Caribbean is the Star Wars of a new generation. Here's some interesting comparisons: First, it's a trilogy in which the first one stands on its own, but where the sequels work together with it as a trilogy. Then, there's the characters. There's Luke/Will Turner, the whiny reluctant hero. There's Leia/Elizabeth. Of course, there's the swashbuckling buccanneer character who saves both trilogies with their cynical wit. Han Solo/Jack Sparrow. Darth Vader is whichever baddie you choose, Barbossa or Davey Jones. Doesn't really matter, other than the fact that they both exist as evil captains of surreal crews. And the locations, of course. Islands/Planets, the Sea/Outer Space, ships/ships, and Tortuga/Mos Eisley. The rest branches from there in various directions. Themes, swords vs. guns, Empire-Rebellion/East India Trading Company. But the important thing is the alternate universe and the mythological edge. Interesting, eh? ---------------------------------- "Cinema is the most beautiful fraud." - Jean-Luc Godard ========================== www.mmrempen.com | |||
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Moderator |
Very good comparisons, but I doubt POTC will end up carrying the same magic and timeless appeal that Star Wars did. In fact, I'm not sure if a movie can ever do that again. It's as much a cultural phenomena as a film phenomena. "If not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled." Wodehouse | |||
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I would say it's more the Indiana Jones of this generation. Although, I don't remember falling asleep in the theater when I watched the first two Indy movies. elliott (otiose)... "Why should North Carolina taxpayers pay for something they find objectionable?" --Sen. Phil Berger, R-Rockingham | |||
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| Moderator |
I just came back from seeing it and was blown away. Here's a couple points that I wanted to figure out: *SPOILERS* Well, really it's only one question. Does Elizabeth like Jack? I know that the obvious answer is no, and that she really loves Will but some things confused me. First of all, when the compass that shows your most wanted desires pointed to Jack I thought, well okay...but maybe it's just an infatuation with his bad ass like character. Then, I started looking at how she acted around Jack and noticed that it was pretty flirty. Again, can be categorized as an infatuation but if it was, she did a good job of acting like it was more than that. I understand that at the end when she made out with Jack it was to chain him to the ship, but I wonder if that was really her desire to put her insecurities of "settling" for William at rest. She looked pretty sad, and so again I summed it up to her feeling the guilt of condeming him to a gruesome death. The way she kissed him though and the expressions on her face after the fact, made me think either she really loves Jack or the director is trying to confuse the minds of the viewers or perhaps spark some interest. Maybe not everyone saw this, but I sure did and was greatly annoyed by it. Sure, a film is supposed to make you think and if you leave the theater thinking about it, the director has successfully done his job BUT with a movie like this I didn't expect that. It was originally intended for a young audience, but because of its overwhelming success I think the director decided to try to appeal to more age groups by focusing more on the love story. I don't mind that, but for a Disney movie I didn't think it really fit. Does anyone else think that this was strange? Maybe its just me. -Kegan | |||
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| Sophomore |
I wouldn't worry about it, Kegan... I doubt anyone's going to accuse Pirates of being a love story. Plus, saying that focusing on the love story doesn't "fit" for a Disney movie is to disregard Snow White, Aladdin, Cinderella, Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Sleeping Beauty, Lady and the Tramp, and the countless made-for-TV stuff and other non-animated films that Disney has pumped out over the decades. My girlfriend is convinced that Jack and Elizabeth are getting together at the end. As for me, as long as pirates are blowing away other pirates with a mythological spin, I'm happy. That's a good point, grimlock, it might just be Indiana Jones in its impact culturally. But structurally it's Star Wars. ---------------------------------- "Cinema is the most beautiful fraud." - Jean-Luc Godard ========================== www.mmrempen.com | |||
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| Freshman |
In my opinion they do this to put her in a position where she must choose between them and to give Jack another comidic source "Pain is termorary. Film is forever" - Michael J. Fox | |||
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| Moderator |
Hmm, fair enough about Snow White and Aladdin etc and yeah I'm happy when pirates are blowing each other away but it was just a thought that I was pondering. Your girlfriend may have a point there...Jack and Elizabeth may very well end up together, but that's far from the fairy tale ending children are looking to see...or is it? I don't know what children of today are into, and quite frankly I wouldn't be suprised if they liked that she left Will. Oh and one other thing..did anyone notice that she's been with Will, Jack AND Norrington? The three men that were all fighting (and not over her). Elizabeth's left a man for another once, so I suppose I wouldn't be suprised if she did it again, moreso dissapointed. -Kegan | |||
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| Sophomore |
You know, I really don't think this is supposed to be a "children's" film in the conventional terms. By that I mean that besides its PG-13 rating, Disney is looking to market this to an older audience, mid-teens to adult. I don't think they really care what little kids think. I was in the theater next to a woman who'd brought her 6 or 7-year-old, and I remember thinking, jeez, this movie is really scary and nasty for little kids. They are definitely going for older audiences. So much the better! ---------------------------------- "Cinema is the most beautiful fraud." - Jean-Luc Godard ========================== www.mmrempen.com | |||
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| Moderator |
I agree with that. I'm glad it's not really a children's flick. It had a lot of elements that appealed to an older audience for sure and that's probably what made me like it that much more. I heard a girl scream, when Will was tracing the string to the end and that guy jumped out. It even startled me a little. -Kegan | |||
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Sophomore |
Haha my friend screamed at that part too...really loud... jessica | |||
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Freshman |
My only pet peeve was Jack being locked to the ship by Elizabeth... He could've gotten away... He could've gotten away... sigh, Off the plank with her! DIRECTOR. EDITOR. WRITER. kingstonfilms "My world succeeds this one..." - the instant the lightning strikes the tower... everything will be fine. | |||
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Sophomore |
MY dad works for Disney , so here are his thoughts: 1. He would give it 2 1/2 stars 2. Historically, it's bunk... the whole thing is crammed together illogically...Davey Jones, Flying dutchman... do a little research and wonder who the hell wrote this 3. He feels it's too long, not that 2.5 hours is long EXACTLY in movie world... but it felt long 4. The ending basically forces you to watch the sequel... POTC3 5. THe acting was fine 6. Some of it felt muddled & unclear 7.had some good shots, good angles, good sequences ** So, there's your inside company critique (that I basically wrote up from memory of what he told me)** ==How many lives are living strange?== | |||
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Alumnus |
I enjoyed it. Like the first, it was very entertaining and it was quality cinema. I can't wait for the third. | |||
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Sophomore |
Just saw it-- loved it. Not perfect, but it does its job and then some. Kegan- As I'm sure you know, movies need drama, or there's no movie, even if we know the ending at the beginning. Think of every sports movie ever. We know the "good guys" are going to start out terribly, get better, face adversity, and then overcome that adversity to win the big game... same deal here; it's more exciting to have Will and Elizabeth face some drama than to sail through 3 movies without even a minor bump in the road. If Elizabeth and Jack "end up together," I'll eat my (pirate) hat. Also, People are talking about the similarities between this and Indiana Jones, my other favorite action franchise. I thought that myself while I was in the theater. There are countless comparisons you could make between them. And I'd say that's quite a compliment to Gore and co. Actors? What actors? | |||
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| Sophomore |
What exactly does your dad DO at Disney? 2. Like anyone is going for a historical account of pirating 4. So does Empire Strikes Back, or any other good middle-of-the-trilogy film, it's called a cliffhanger Sorry, I don't mean to be mean or anything. Point/counter-point, eh? ---------------------------------- "Cinema is the most beautiful fraud." - Jean-Luc Godard ========================== www.mmrempen.com | |||
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| Freshman |
PoTC got quite a few things wrong. For one, Port Royal couldn't be in the movie because it was it was completely destroyed a few years after Morgan's death (long before this film would take place). Second, pirates almost always targeted Spaniards, not the British. Third, piracy was predominantly in Henry Morgan's generation, again well before PoTC takes place, thus the fact piracy was alive and well in the film is quite anachronistic. Working on this, it is fair to say "Pirates of the Caribbean" has absolutely nothing really to do with pirates. But then again, I think all of us accept that this film was not meant to be a historical record. This film is a tongue-in-cheek look at the image of pirates. It's meant to be entertainment, not history committed to celluloid. If anybody made a movie about what real pirates were like, nobody would be able recognize what they were watching. That being said, I thought it was a great sequel. Captain Sparrow's entrance into the film was hilarious, and Bill Nighy's performance as Davey Jones was incredible. The humor, action, and ability to capture the interest of the audience well lived up to the first. | |||
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