You are just repeating what others have said Hoeks. Not to be rude, but haven't you read or heard anything about this film? The Passion of The Christ was portrayed acurately. Passion has come to mean many things, but in the dictionary (go to dictionary.com and search for passion) it says " The sufferings of Jesus in the period following the Last Supper and including the Crucifixion, as related in the New Testament." That was what the movie was about. That was all Mel made it about. So why did you go and see it?

Matthew J. Fuster
Director, Producer, Editor, Writer
Zion Pictures Ltd.

I know what passion means, I knew what I would expect. I've seen it because I see almost every single movie out there You have to watch the bad stuff to learn about making films...and to appreciate the good movies.

I did not read a lot about it. I was not very interested. And I must say, EURO TRIp is way more controversial if it comes to the chruch than this film....

damn, I just found a new hate object for the next couple of month

As a "Non-believer" my take would be mostly in line with Hoeks. If one is not of the belief that Christ died for them, then there isn't enough at stake to make the film truly successful as a work of art. Yes, it is still painful to watch, and you are right there with him, but there's nothing to separate him from any other martyr.

I can very much see how much more moving and meaningful this film can be for Christians, though, with that pre-existing connection to the protagonist. In that regard it is more successful as an artwork, although I still think it's a bit of a white elephant.

As far as anti-semitism goes, I can see both sides of the argument. I don't believe Gibson to be an anti-semite and I don't forsee the film creating any new anti-semites due to it's portrayal. All religions have produced tyrants, and only the small minded would hold the followers of a religion responsible for generations old attrocities. However, the sane people of the world are never the concern and I believe that was the point of protest. Ultimately I'm in favor of anything that adds to positive discourse.

Nota "Still doesn't know why they made Jesus white In the film" Mono

Just saw it. I am a non-beliver. But this movie moved me greatly. The movie was violent. But I had no problem with it and knew what I was going into in the first place. Even though I don't belive in God I still was deeeply involved with the movie. Yes at times I thought it was being draged on and on, but I think that worked. You almost feel like you want the movie to end, because you know what's going to happen. I like that, it's almost uncomfortable to watch something prolong like that, which draws you into the character and really feel remorse for his prolong suffering. The score was really good and the acting was great. The movie is a masterpeice. I can see it could have a whole new meaning for me if I was religous. One of my friends quoted "it was like going to a funurel of a loved one." This movie is good, weither it affects you religiously or artisticly.

P.S. There was one shot that just got me. It's right when Jesus is leaving with the cross and there is a close up of the eyes. The way he just stares off with the blood dripping. Really affected me.

Andrew H Paul

I just saw itâI went during the Academy Awards. I think I was expecting too much, because I really wasn't that impressed with it. The excessiveness of the blood and violence made it more difficult to believe for me (how much blood can leave the body of one person before they die?). I also wanted to see the resurrection as a more prominent part of the movie (not just 30 seconds at the end) as that is the most important part of the story as a Catholic.

I can see why Gibson made the movie, and I'm glad he did. But, I would almost classify the movie as 'experimental.' It assumed you knew the story. That's okay, but as a film, it failed for me to tell a complete, compelling, believable story. I'm glad I saw it because it did help me evaluate my faith. But after evaluating my faith, I realize that the passion of christ isn't nearly as important as other aspects of his life and teachings.
I can watch some movies over and over again. This one I probably won't watch again for some time.

Joren

www.jorenclark.com || The Wallet @ ReWind

Of course, I don't know Mel Gibson's real intentions, but I would say that he probably had the idea that only showing 12 hours of his life would make people interested in finding out more. You know? The people who don't know the whole story are obviously curious about what else happened. Maybe just showing a short time will spark interest.

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Adam Gates
Director, Victory Rose Films
Victory Rose Films

Its funny. I really enjoyed the film not even as much for my own beliefs but for its depiction of an era.

Even if you are not a "Believer" there is no real debate that Jesus was a man that lived, and was brutalized and died if nothing else, believing he was dieing so all men could live.

Seeing any human being undertake what he did even if he was crazy and all of it wasnt real is pretty impressive.

disregarding even that men were killed in this very fashion every day during that time. I think this was the reason Mel chose to use Sooooo much slow mo. In moments of extreme... anything we as humans tend to feel like it will never end, as if it drags on forever. Certainly such torture must have felt this way.

That and the Mother Son dynamic really got to me. Not even just in that one occassion but how throughout time Mothers have had to watch terrible things happen to their children and feel helpless (A great case in point being the Holocaust)

I was most impressed with the cinematography, sound design and art direction though. Some, dare I say, Oscar worthy work there. It will b interesting to see how the Academy approaches this film next year.

Anyway my spare change.
R. Michael

"Luck, is when opportunity, meets preperation." "There are 3 sides to every story. Yours, mine, and the truth, and none of us are lying" -Robert Evans
Tizzy Entertainment "Redemption" Hi-Def trailer

interesting you bring up the academy tizzy cause as i was watching the awards this year, i was wondering if the passion would be elegable for "best foregin language film." i know its an american based picture, though its using gibson's aussie based production company and, well, its obviously in a foregin language. i could just be crazy, but that's what i was thinking at least.

-Justin
Lone Palm Creations

I AM a Christian and I thought the film was amazing from both the religous aspect and strictly "film" aspect. I understand that many of the reviewers are "non-believers" and I can definitly understand why you didn't enjoy the film. Is it violent. YES. Are you introduced to the characters. Not in the way we are used to. But, that's why film making is an art form. There are no rules. Mel Gibson made his depiction of the crucifixtion and it is changing lives around the globe. I took many of my non-christian friends to see it and some of them hated but 2 of them may have been changed for a life time. WHen was the last movie that has changed peoples lives in such a profound way? This movie was God inspired and is a triumph for the Christian faith. I know I'll probably get a lot of grief for this post, but I'm tired of Christians sitting around and not voicing there opions. THIS IS A GREAT MOVIE! SEE IT! And if you don't understand everything . . . email me back. Booradley@ou.edu

Kill Christ

Did anyone else see this parody trailer? It was edited like the trailer to Kill Bill. I thought it was done very well. Very creative.

www.jorenclark.com || The Wallet @ ReWind

"Hail Mary. Hail Mary. Hail Mary." There you are Notomono!

I thought this film was amazing. I've heard the arguments that it takes too long and he's beaten too long, etc., but I figure most films are set for a longer time frame - days, weeks and/or years. This film showed 12 hours of Jesus' life in 2. It shouldn't rush through anything!

I liked the score, the cinematography, lighting - just about everything about it. I also like the idea put forth by Durden - perhaps seeing only 12 hours of his life will pique individuals to find out more. I could see a sequel/prequel coming from this. And not just to make money - but for the great story.

I think it's about time someone had the guts to make a film about Christ in a realistic manner. I just read an online article that there are few good movies for Christians made and if one is well-made, they will go see it. I agree with that - but think this film is for anyone - Christian and non-Christian alike.

I thought Caveziel (sp?) did a great job, but the only thing that I might have considered was using actors that "fit the nationalities" of the characters being protrayed. I don't know if I've ever seen a Jesus movie with Middle Eastern actors.

Just my two cents!

Mark M
Sugar Free Productions

kevin spacey should have been jesus.
end of story.

Nazareth Confidential?

Mark M
Sugar Free Productions

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Nazareth Confidential?

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LMFAO!!!!!

"Luck, is when opportunity, meets preperation." "There are 3 sides to every story. Yours, mine, and the truth, and none of us are lying" -Robert Evans
Tizzy Entertainment "Redemption" Hi-Def trailer

Thanks. It was either that or: THE USUAL APOSTLES.

Mark M
Sugar Free Productions

caviezel is a very typical swiss name I just realised

I cant wait for the second part...

JESUS CHRIST STRIKES BACK.

or THE RETURN OF THE CHRIST

RESSURECTION: THE REVENGE OF THE CHRIST

damn, I could come up with so many cool titles Please dont be offended by me