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for anyone out there who has not seen this documentary by Michael Moore, please go and check it out.
a profound look at how our country behaves toward guns and violence, which made me think . . . where are we (the American People) headed for in the future?
incredibly powerful film. one of the best documentaries i have ever seen.
----------- Alejandro Lalinde grey.street.films
"A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later." -Stanley Kubrick (1928-1999)
Posts: 221 | Location: Los Angeles.CA | Registered: December 14, 2002
Documentaries are to document truth, and actual occurances. Bowling for columbine is part fictional...Which make me wonder how he won an academy award for a documentary that was a fictional story.
He also documents the decline in our society due to violence...hummm...thats funny, he finacialy supports inde-films saturated with violence. Two words: DOUBLE STANDARD.
Having said that, yes, go check this documentary out.
"Pain is temporary, Film is forever"-Peter Jackson
Posts: 325 | Location: United States | Registered: June 12, 2003
What part of it was fictional? I wasn't aware of that. In fact, I remember discussing the film in my documentary class and noone brought up any issues being fictional. The thin blue line, however, we discussed in depth what was fictional and what wasn't. But, I guess the modern defenition of documentary allows for a certain amount of fiction, right?
Posts: 1742 | Location: HELL-A | Registered: March 05, 2003
Alright Kris, either you never fully watched BFC, or you are just a really huge dumbass. Yeah, he supports indie flicks, which first off, aren't always so damned violent, you ignorant dink. Second, if you had watched it, you would've seen the conlcusion he was able to draw that violent movies weren't the source. You know how he came up with that because Canada, a ten million gun-toting strong population, watches the same violent movies, listens to the same violent songs, and plays the same violent video games. How many gun deaths do they have compared to us? A minute little fraction of our thousands a year. What did he seem to come to was the real reason? A violent news media that installs fear into us. Had you had a fuc*ing brain cell you would've understood that. As far as fiction goes. The only thing I've heard was he took a little creative liscence on editing the length of time it took for him to get a gun from the bank. Otherwise, there wasn't much room for fiction. Jesus man, GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS.
the entire bank scene is fictionalized. you know...the one where he gets the gun for opening an account? Found out later the banks would still need to do a background check and a waiting period before issuing it, they dont just GIVE them out. that was one ofthe most infamous scenes of the film; too bady it was phoney.
Posts: 182 | Location: New York | Registered: August 13, 2003
Background check, shmackground check. The whole point is that you got a gun at a bank. Is that even the best ****ing idea? How safe would you feel with the guy behind you in line holding his rifle and looking real "happy?" Jesus, I don't know how this movie is lost on so many people.
Frankly, I could care less about Heston. He was edited to look like the anti-christ, but wasn't that interview enough? If the guy was at least smart he'd be able to spin it so he didn't look so heartless. And Moore's point about the news media still stands, despite the lousy comeback that website gave for it (they answered the question with a question, an obviously stupid question.) So he took a little creative editing, the movie still stands. And Kris, I'm sorry I'm not some lucky ****ing moron with millions of dollars to waste on stupid ****, otherwise then you might listen.
Kris, I am from Canada as well, and that comment about violence you made is the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my life. Statistics prove America is a violent country, and last time I checked Canada didn't have nearly the statistics that America had (in ratio form, not numbers). But that's besides the point, Moore made a movie to prove a point and if it's above you then that's your problem, not his.
If you don't look I'll force you to _=_
Posts: 590 | Location: Canada | Registered: December 26, 2002
just so we're clear, are we mad that moore dramaticised events and, to varying degrees, changed their meaning, or are we mad that he's successful at doing so? This stuff happens all the time in documentaries, and news. Is he a worse documentarian for it? I don't think so. I thought his piece was very powerful and heartfelt and entertertaining.
joren
Posts: 1742 | Location: HELL-A | Registered: March 05, 2003