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Freshman |
You've back pedaled into a corner. Stop being so defensive because people don't like you're ideas. This is the third topic I can think of that you started and when people didn't like your idea you got defensive and angry. You asked what we would think of this terrorist idea for a short. Kyle didn't like it, he has the right to. and so do I. The reason this idea isn't compelling is because its such a weak message. You mean a guy might think about his family before he sacrifices himself? Of course he would. This idea is not shocking, controversial, whatever. It's trite.
I refuse to belive that you're comparing yourself to David Lynch. I must not be reading that right or you mistyped or something. And on top of that his movies do make sense, once you piece them together. Not to mention his direction on top of that. (Not pro/anti Lynch arguments please. I'm sure there are several topics already started elsewhere in the forum for that.) GODFATHER, from the last three scripts/ideas I've read in these posts you've started I can see a trend: You're trying to hard to be controversial or shocking. Just write stories about characters, not about shocking events or whatever. The fact that this topic is titled "controversial piece" just shows that even more. Think more about making something people will want to sit down and watch over and over again instead of something they will walk away from with a bad taste in their mouth. I dig music...........AND I'M ON DRUGS!!!!!!!!!!! | |||
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| Freshman |
no actually i had a couple of topics were people liked the idea..when i dont agree with someone i dont, its that simple..i say so. he did not not like it, he left tthe story and started gteneralizing. im not comparing myself to david lynch, i said david lynch doesnt alwasy make films with character backgrounds or linear storry telling, u should see his shorts. im not trying to be contrversial, im trying to make strong points..but the topic of terrorism is contrversial, thats why i wrote that for this one, not the others | |||
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Freshman |
Guys, guys... please. Break it up. First off, I don't like this dude's story either, but I think something could be done with his idea. The way most of you agressively jumped to tear the idea/story to pieces, makes me think that *maybe*, just maybe, the topic arises some sensibility among some of you (not that it's bad thing). Unoriginal? Yeah, probably. Weak? So far, yes. No character development? We'll see. The man is getting defensive and agressive because that's the attitude with which he was criticised. He did state this was doing nothig to help him, yet only HDK said something useful. I have seen some of the posters on this thread give helpful advice to others, whether they had questions, ideas, or no ideas. Really... what's going on here? E. p.s.: HDK, that was great advice. | |||
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Alumnus  |
its not that important, rather a waste of time, but I believe what holdemrpink was saying was that to bring up Lynch's work alongside a film idea topic such as this would be fitting if you were making a film in the genre that Lynch has found home in. Apples and ORanges. | |||
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| Freshman |
god just read what i wrote b4, apparently i repeated myself to u like 4 times and u still dont get it, i wont bother explaning stuf fto u anymore, use ur eyes a lil. | |||
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| Freshman |
thank both of you] HDK criticized, but in the right fashion and did benefit me with his opinon, rather than just act all freakin mighty and look down at ppl | |||
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| Alumnus |
you must be reading these words in wrong tones . no one is regarding you as less than anyone else. atleast that was never my intention. | |||
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Junior |
well you wanted a controversial piece, you got one. too bad its on a message board. | |||
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Graduate |
lol. good one. | |||
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| Moderator |
Well, I just thought I'd share my thoughts on the topic. I can sort of see where GODFATHER is coming from wanting to do a piece on terrorism. He says that he has a message to share, so maybe he somehow terrorism has affected him, or someone he knows. We don't know, but so far he has yet to share that bit of information. It is a short, but understand that you have to have some sort of character development in film. Be it short films or a feature..with characters the audience should feel something for the character. What I get from your idea is that you want to portray how a terrorist doesn't want to commit an act he is being forced to do, to protect his family. Now, that's not an entirely bad idea..but to portray this you NEED character development-otherwise the movie will fall apart, its based around this one person. Thats my 2 cents, but one other thing-Kyle Johnson seems to have been around these boards for quite some time, and I'm not picking sides but he as far as I can see, has only REACTED to your outbursts. They're not necessary, and they get you nowhere and on top of that, losing your cool and trying to pick a fight with someone who obviously is just offering an outsiders point of view is not smart. Kegan | |||
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| Alumnus |
Good for you. So don't get offended if we do the same to you. In all seriousness, if you find terrorism to be a topic that interests you, just write what comes to mind and don't aim to be controversial. I doubt you'll ever come up with something truly deep and thought-provoking through a film that lasts less than a minute or two--the audience just won't have enough time to connect. Really think things through and make it as long as it needs to be to translate the message. In the future, know that hostile responses such as yours just aggrevate people who don't usually post equally offensive remarks. My sarcasm before was uncalled for and I apologize but I stand by it's message and why I posted it at the time: you were being just as disagreeable. When someone comes across as overbearing or rude it's best to act apologetic and understanding. From what I've found, if they have any heart in them at all, they'll back down and feel sorry for treating you badly, knowing then that you're a good person undeserving of that kind of treatment. Take this advice from a little brother  Good luck with whatever you do. | |||
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lmao you guys are ******** You can't say that this piece would fail, because you have yet to see Godfather's presentation of it. He may be able to pull it off. Don't be so negative you guys. One of the great things about film is being able to take a cliche or dull subject matter and make it original and fresh again. Godfather don't listen to these haters, do what it is you do. Also, Unforgettable romance was pretty good aside from the acting. Love the ending Many great filmmakers make movies with the intent to shock or disgust. IE Takashi Miike David fincher & MANY MANY MANY MORE. It is YOU guys who need to be original and stop being robots. Think outside the box. YOURE ALL SLAVES Shock cinema is great  This message has been edited. Last edited by: titaniumdoughnut, | |||
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Moderator |
I agree with whoever said you need to develop a reason for this terrorist to be indecisive. I'm sure they all have some doubts right before they press the button, but you need to explain WHY this man does. Also, it's a little bit self-defeating to ask for opinions and then aggressively defend your idea when the opinions begin to arrive. "If not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled." Wodehouse | |||
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| Sophomore |
Perry Kroll I'm going to kick your | |||
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| Moderator |
now, now... let's keep it dignified you and me, at dawn, in the cutting room "If not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled." Wodehouse | |||
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| Freshman |
GODFATHER: The story doesn't sound very good to me. Whenever I see a really short movie that's designed the prove a point it usually backfires. And other than that point, you've said nothing positive about what your movie could offer. In general, the idea just doesn't seem too original. I can't think of examples of movies where terrorists are ambivalent about their actions, but I can certainly think of many stories about criminals who are portrayed as mostly good people who are lead astray becomes of conditions that make them think it's necessary (which is, it seems to me, what your story boils down to). I imagine watching the movie: I'd be bored by some artistic shots, think the character is lame and sentimental when he looks the picture, and then just left completely unsatified when he blows himself up. But, there's a bigger problem anyway: I don't get under what circumstances I would ever watch this movie. Maybe as a commercial is you happen to have tons of money, but I don't imagine I would ever care enough to even click a link on a site like this and watch a movie like that. ===Completely irrelevant to the point of this thread:=== 1) A lot of you seem really rude and petty. It's just unpleasant. 2) GODFATHER: You don't need to reply personally to every criticism. You asked what we thought of your idea. No one asked what you thought of their critics. =============== | |||
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| Freshman |
i still need to devellop the idea. i wanted to accomplish something in mind, but im thinking to make it into a bigger story..i still need more development, maybe more info about who this terrorist is an dhow he became one.. thanks for the polite response. | |||
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