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directing advice needed

duffy

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Hey folks new to the forums lookin for some directing advice im new to film making and anyone know any sites that have free info on how to direct actors and movies in general

cheers duffy
 
Hey folks new to the forums lookin for some directing advice im new to film making and anyone know any sites that have free info on how to direct actors and movies in general

cheers duffy
 
Thats quite a broad topic, anything specifically you want advice on?

Heres my directing advice:

1) Balance!!!

Balance is the most important factor in filmmaking and in life in general.

2) Dont be afraid to let other people know that you are in charge in the filmmaking process.

3) Figure out HOW to get where you want instead of just deciding WHERE you want to go

4) Work logically in order (ex. Dont work on costumes before you write the script)

5) Know that there will be disagreements in arguments, learn when it is and isnt necessary to defer to another opinion.

6) Keep your actors encouraged.

7) Plan before you shoot.

8) Make sure you have a storyboard and a shooting chart to keep your shoot short-lengthed

9) Experience is the greatest tool

Thats a quite short list...
 
Actually know what your doing! Some people just want the title of director even though they don't know jack. At least have an idea of what you want.
 
Indeed, that is the most important. I tend to direct all my movies, so I know where I am coming from when I say what follows.
I always let my actors know what I know before and during we shoot. I do leave a lot open for discussion if we are in small groups, that way people really fell like they are participating.
PLAN PLAN PLAN! I don't know how to stress this enough. If you show up with out a plan, people aren't going to like you. Analogy: If you run for president without a presidency plan, no one will vote for you.
Be flexible, but stay in charge. Analogy: The President must flow with what the aorld and country gives him, and he makes decisions on the NOW. The president will have a set plan for his term, but issues arise and the plan must be changed.
YOU HAVE THE FINAL SAY!!!!!!!
Keep things moving. Don't stop to watch footage unless your really unsure how it turned out. Get multiple angles and don't forget retakes. Something might be wrong witht the first one that you didn't catch.
That said, do have a minute or so where everyone can grab a quick drink, or scarf some food. Never work far from a water supply. Your actors get cranky if they arent comfortable.
Be organized! People will disrespect you if they see you have no organizational skills at all. If you do lose something, don't act like you did, just keep an extra eye out for it and continue the shoot.
For the most part, be mundane with that tad of flare! Over enthusiastic: people think your stupid. Under enthusiastic: people think you suck.
Pick and choose your battles! If someone is picking about something that seems irrelevant, it most likely is. Let them when the small stuff, it makes them feel good. However, they still will respect you if you always win the big fights. Keep problems and disagreemants in order of severity.
Go with the flow. I always come up with something new when I am actually on teh set rather then writing in my little notebook. Do it the new way and the old way, in editing, you can see what looks better.
The director is really the mediator of everything. All of the talent on set funnels through the director.
 
Hey Duffy, there is some good advice up above, but I thought I'd go ahead and add my 2 cents (more like rambling actually hehe). As what was already said, it's always good to have a plan. Its like they say, if you don't plan, you're planning to fail.


If you are just starting out, practice shooting short films and make lots of them. You don't need a fancy camcorder either, just use one you have lying around or borrow one if you have to. Creating these videos will help you learn immensely and give you experience. They will teach you what shots work for which situation, which one's don't, how to deal with actors, working with your crew (i.e. the actors hehe) experience working with your goofball friends and trying to get them to cooperate and “get it done”, how to make decisions when time is running out, meeting deadlines for festivals/assignments or contests, etc. The more videos you make, the more needs/wants will arrive. You'll probably notice that the picture is too dark, or maybe the sound stinks. This will motivate you to figure out how to fix these problems and thus the cycle begins and hopefully your next film project will be better than the last. If it isn't, who cares! Move on and learn from your mistakes. It's all a huge learning experience. Don't be discouraged --- you might visualize your movie in its entire Hollywood splendor, but have the final product look like COPS. Don't worry, lots of people face the same problem and continue to work for the look of their movie. You'll probably have to read up on cinematography and lighting to achieve a more cinematic feel and presentation for your film.

Dealing with actors (i.e. friends who think it will be funny to run the wheelchair your sitting on into the wall):

Yes that has really happened to me (note: you can sit in a wheelchair with your camera and have a friend push you to create dolly (moving) shots.) At this point I just wanted to cuss them out and leave, but I resisted. Rather than tell them that I'd rather chew glass than film with them anymore that night, I just kept at it and we were able to finish the project that same evening (by some miracle). I did this by saying, “c'mon guys only a little bit more to do”. Maybe not the most effective method, but it worked for that particular shot. Other times I would encourage them about the film festival and tell them how cool it will be to see them on the screen. Most of the time it was just me pleading and begging to finish the next shot. What I'm trying to say though is that you've got to find your own way of getting the movie done. Until you can work with people who take filmmaking more seriously, you can learn your people skills with the folks your working with at your level. I still wonder how we were able to finish any projects based on all the goofing off, but I guess all that pleading and filming the next shot added up.

Making Decisions:

As a director, you've got to call the shots and make important decisions. Here's an example that I faced:

I was shooting a short film that took place outdoors. The story required yours truly to be picked up by an invisible creature, thrown into a tree, and then dragged to my death. Unfortunately, filming myself being picked up was harder than it seemed. We tried several shots of me jumping off our jeep and using the camera to capture me midair. Ultimately it looked ridiculously bad. We tried to come up with different suggestions for the scene, but time was running out. The sun was going down and we had a deadline to meet. I had to make a decision, and decided to change the scene entirely and only have myself tripped, fall to the floor, and dragged to my death. Although not as flashy, the scene still worked and conveyed the same type of feeling we were going for.

Note: A friend of mine wanted me to film a promotional video of his martial arts school and have shots of the students flying through the air like they were being thrown around. Can you see where I'm going with this? Now given, he had a small trampoline (something I didn't have before) so I went ahead and tried out the shot with the trampoline (which still looked bad btw), but ultimately I knew the shots wouldn't really work based on my previous experience with that type of shot.


Here are some helpful links:

http://www.college-film.com/michael.htm ---(Tizzy's article! Good read)

http://www.rondexter.com/ --- Extremely helpful site, topics range from rigging techniques to working with kids!

http://www.jamesarnett.com/sections.html --- another helpful site --- talks about video basics, pre-production, production, etc.



Also, be sure to check out this forum. You can search for whatever need you have and probably find SOMETHING informative. Books are a good source of information as well --- check out the Film Books section of this site located at the top.

Sorry the post was so long =p
 
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thanks for the advice folks its helped alot its all realy apreciated and ive taken onboard what you have all said and hope to put it to good use


cheers duffy
 
the best advice I heard is to make sure everything is a choice--both in front and behind a camera. That means everything from tripod height and zoom length to cleaning the windows of the house that's in the background behind the lemonade stand I'm taping and choosing a tablecloth for the cardboard table. It's attention to detail and not always taking the easiest 'choice.'
 
Just to add to Suma's wheelchair experience:

Try as hard as you can not to get mad when your friend unloads an airsoft MP5 on your butt. I had to force myself to laugh with them.
 
I'm just finishing up 'Making Movies' by Sidney Lumet. It's a treasure trove of good stuff for would be directors. I'd highly recommend snagging it from your local library or bookstore.

Nota "Or maybe the booktastic bus" Mono
 

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